Did lil tim get released1/5/2024 ![]() They never killed again and had a team of mental health social workers, psychiatrists, etc. The case happened in the US and the process is nearly identical to what happens in Canada and all around the world. I had a family member who was in this situation (brutally killed another family member out of a horrible breakthrough psychotic episode, and was found NGRI), and went through the process. There have been studies on recidivism rates for people with schizophrenia who committed homicide + found “not guilty by reason of insanity” (whatever the equivalent is in other countries), and it’s LOW. Took him till 2017 to do so.Īll of this! I understand why people have fear of cases like this reoffending, but the reality is that the process of re-integration into society (if they qualify for it) has so much red tape. But the law and medical professionals trust him with it. It's not easy to be granted freedom after that at all. He did earn his freedom, and we should not limit people's freedoms because of past acts out of their control that they are like 99.9% not going to do again. In a non criminal case you do often have people going in and out of the systems, but when it comes to someone who is in for murder they aren't just letting you go unless you have improved significantly- especially seen as for lesser things they try to keep you in for a while too. He was granted the ability to live on jis own for a reason. When it comes to this case neither of those things are true. ![]() The only thing that would cause them to reoffend is if they didn't want to stop having those pyschotic episodes which is something that in a situation like this would have been found out about and probably wouldn't let him go out, and normally that happens with people who do not understand their mental illness or who have worse lives after they start treatment. Then they later go on to show immense guilt and remorse over the act, and then learn about their condition, and then because they have learned about their condition can manage it and therefore don't do this stuff anymore. When it comes to these types of murders they are often committed by people who do not understand their condition during a time of psychosis (which they often do not know that they experience). The whole freedom thing is also something that happens gradually over an extended amount of time so that they can confirm that you are capable of functioning well outside of heavily monitored treatment. In that type of situation they do not let you go unless they fully believe you aren't going to reoffend again because they have talked to you and ran a bunch of tests on whether or not you're of sound and mind and capable of doing the things you need to do to stay of sound mind. But it is his responsibility to manage it going forward. It's not his fault that he had undiagnosed schizophrenia (at the time of the attack). As long as he's taking his medication, I think it's good that he was given a second chance. That said, it does seem like this was Vince Li's first offense (and first psychotic episode). I don't understand how Canada is okay with releasing violent NCR offenders (like Jeff), not properly following up on them, and then letting them plead NCR when they re-offend.Įither the violent offender should never have been let out, or they need to be held accountable at SOME point (maybe the 3rd NCR verdict? Surely the 4th?). There was a case in Ontario a few years ago of a man (Jeff Weber) who was found not criminally responsible FOUR times for violent attacks (including assaulting women, abducting a 10-year-old, and blinding a man with a hammer because the man was black). There should either be mandatory checkups (and mandatory medication compliance) OR full criminal responsibility if this (or any violent offense) ever happens again. Related Subs and Links: The Crime Newsroom Discord /r/UnresolvedMysteries /r/RedditCrimeCommunity /r/ColdCases Directory of Crime Subreddits Crime Custom Feed Follow the Reddit content policy at all times.YouTube or Podcast posts are allowed if your account meets our requirements.No rants, loaded questions, or soapboxing in the form of a crime post.Anything that can be advertised requires prior permission from the mods. ![]() ![]() ![]() No doxxing or posting personal information.Please do not insult, attack, antagonize, or troll others. Our community offers an alternative to subs that don't allow videos or podcast links as post submissions to kick off discussion. Welcome to r/TrueCrimeDiscussion Reddit's open forum for discussion of anything and everything about true crime, court cases, and the legal system. Click Join and participate in the discussion. ![]()
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